Tuesday, February 1, 2011

Vaccaro, Jackson Communications Inc. and the Jackson Family

As some of you know, I posted a blog about Vintage Pop Media, but someone commented that I had posted incorrect information. I thought that I had researched this subject thoroughly, but within an hour or two, I realized I had missed key elements in the history between Henry Vaccaro and the Jackson family. So here we go:

1992- Jackson Communications Inc. is formed. The corporation is owned by the 11 Jackson members, including Michael, Janet, LaToya, Jermaine, Jackie, Randy, Rebbie, Tito, Marlon, Katherine and Joe Jackson.

Entrepreneur Robert Petrallia met Joe Jackson almost a year earlier. The two discussed building a $350 million complex in Asbury Park, NJ. Asbury Park fails as financing falls through and the developer files Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Petrallia convinces the Jacksons for form Jackson Communications Inc. (from now on referred to as JCI) and appoint himself as chairman of JCI.
One of JCI's first moves is to acquire new businesses. One of the first was the Kramer Guitar Company in Neptune, NJ. Vaccaro is the owner of Kramer Guitar, and he already knows the Jackson family.
Kramer was a contractor for the Asbury Park development, but had dropped out of the project a year before Petrallia became involved. In 1988, before Kramer dropped out of the project, he hosted Katherine and Joe Jackson and gave them a tour of the city and took them to see Kramer Guitar Inc. Once a giant in the guitar business, by 1992 Kramer Guitar and Vaccaro were in bankruptcy. Kramer, through his HVV company, owns the assets to Kramer Guitar.
1992-JCI agrees to fund a reorganization of HVV through bankruptcy court. Essentially, JCI agrees to pay HVV's debt of $500,000 and in return, take control of Kramer Guitars.
This deal includes that Vaccaro will receive a 1% share of JCI, a five year consulting contract for $150,000, shares in the new Kramer Guitar, and a royalty profit for each Kramer Guitar sold.
1993- Kramer arrives at the Encino compound as a JCI advisory board member where JCI's corporate structure, investment sources and potential competition are discussed.
1993- JCI's first payment is due on the HVV debt restructure. JCI asks for a 60-day extension which is granted. The payment for $225,000 is made by JCI in the 60-day allowance term. However, the next payment is not made.
According to Petrallia, the reason is the child molestation allegations in 1993 leveraged against Michael Jackson. Sponsors began to pull their support and money, including Pepsi, who withdrew their financial support.
1993-The Jackson Family Honors special on NBC is taped in November. Michael, understandably with the allegations against him, does not want to perform solo. He appears and sings with his family, and according to J. Randy Taraborelli, only performs minimally because his mother asks him to.
1994- With the withdrawal of financial support from advertisers, etc. due to the allegations against Michael, JCI sinks.
1994-Kramer Guitar changes from Chapter 11 to Chapter 7 bankruptcy, the liquidation process. Vaccaro receives no compensation for liquidation and Kramer Guitar is sold to Gibson Guitar.
1994-Vaccaro sues JCI in federal bankruptcy court. The Jackson family fails to respond to the lawsuit.
1995- Consequently, the judge finds the Jacksons in default and schedules a hearing in three months.
1996-The Jacksons fail to respond or appear at the hearing.
1996- Judge William H. Gindin finds for Vaccaro in the amount of $1,347,733.40. (See p. 19 on the link.)
Two important points on Gindin's ruling:
#1. Judge limited the liability of the judgement to those family members who had taken/received dividends from JCI. Michael, Janet and LaToya were NOT INCLUDED.
#2 Judge ruled that those family members were liable for damages because they had violated corporate rules. Again, this did NOT include Michael, Janet or LaToya. These family members had nine months to appeal, and not one of them did so.
1997- Vaccaro has to be able to serve each of the Jacksons, but Vaccaro targets Katherine and Joe Jackson. Vaccaro serves Joe Jackson in Las Vegas by disguising his process server as a newpaper delivery man.
1997-Brian Oxman takes both Katherine and Joe Jackson's statement. Both claim they have no assets. Katherine Jackson claimed she had less than $1000 in assets.
1998-Vaccaro hires private detective Frank Coonis. Although Katherine has claimed that she owns no cars, Coonis finds records that state that Katherine owns seven cars registered in her name. A judge gives authorization to Vaccaro and his attorney to seize the cars to satisfy the judgement in part.
1998-U.S. marshalls arrive at the Encinco compound. They seize one car. Katherine asks to the court to return the car but is denied.
1998-Vaccaro sees a television show with Katherine Jackson in it. Vaccaro asks a judge to be able to seize more assets and is granted the request. This time, they enlist a locksmith to open the wrought iron gate, and seize two more cars and a baby grand piano.
1998-Vaccaro is not satisfied. Vaccaro and Coonis devise a plan to trick the Jacksons. They issue checks to all the Jacksons in the amount of $50 in the form of a rebate. Three of the Jacksons cash the checks, providing Vaccaro and Coonis account numbers by the stamp on the back of the rebate check. Vaccaro seizes $7,000 from those accounts.
Vaccaro's attorney subpoena's the bank accounts. They got Katherine Jackson's cancelled checks and discovered a monthly payment to what they described as a vineyard. This lead to the discovery of the storage units where the memorabilia was held.
1999- Vaccaro seeks and receives a court order to open the storage facility. According to this article, Michael and Janet's possessions were not taken. (This, in my opinion, cannot be true because Vaccaro was in possession of Michael's underwear which was later seized by Tom Sneddon, as well as his sketches and other items that clearly belonged to Michael.)
1999-Most of the Jacksons in the lawsuit file for bankruptcy. Vaccaro had to return the possessions over to bankruptcy court. (Again, in my opinion, he did not turn over all of the possessions.)
2000-Despite some objections from the Jacksons, the bankruptcy judge orders all the items from both storage units, including Michael and Janet's possessions, to be auctioned to the highest bidder in a liquidation bankruptcy proceeding.
2001-Ultimately, Vaccaro buys the both storage units for $85,000.

44 comments:

MissShae said...

Justice this is what I suspected all along. I am not shocked or surprised. If you think about it you know it had to be more to it simply because Mrs Jackson entered into a partnership with Mann in the first place and I am not buying the fact that she is unaware of Mann's past.

The estate has standing if the information is correct that you posted. I think maybe they, the Jackson family members involved, thought it would not come to this if Mrs Jackson was the front person for this. So Mrs Jackson was correct when she said it was need not greed. They are trying to pay off thier debts on Michael's name. Thats nothing new really.

Remember Randy's tweets claiming that his parents are being taken advantage of? What about the Jackson family foundation that Randy also tweeted was not legit? Hmmmm, how can you take advantage of the willing? I tell you it is still something about all of this that is not adding up....

All I can say is I am understanding more and more the need Michael had for the Casio family love. In no way am I saying Michael did not love his family because I believe he did but he also knew them. But it is something about this situation that is off....

june said...

Justice, it must have disappointed you to post this information but, as MissShae says, it has long been surmised by those of us who have researched. To me, the saddest part is that Michael was "included" in the proceedings from the outset, and then, due to the circumstances after 2005, either did not choose to pursue it further, or just could not. I've asked myself why his famous sister did not keep up the fight. Just as now, with so much of Michael's memorabilia and precious memories going on the auction block, why is she not helping to preserve her brother's legacy by keeping what precious objects she can obtain in the Jackson family? It is difficult to understand how KJ would willingly do business with the likes of Mann (and Vaccaro); yes MissShae you are correct, paying off their debts on Michael's name.

Michael Jackson: And Justice for Some said...

Hi...

Yes it is all really sad that it has come to this. To think that if the Jacksons had paid the balance, a mere $325,000, to Vaccaro the memorabilia would have never ended up in his hands.

What I do not understand is how the judge could order BOTH storage units to be sold at auction, even though Michael and Janet were never involved in any of this mess.

June, as to your question about Janet, she did pursue it and it is listed under Black Doll Inc. v. Henry Vaccaro. I will have to check to see what ultimately happened to her possessions.

As far as Miss Shae/June's comments that the Jacksons somehow still owe Vaccaro, I question that. The memorabilia more than satisfied the lawsuit against the Jacksons which he clearly took possession of. There was never any dispute from any Jackson family member except Michael and Janet (which Vaccaro never had any legal right to in the first place!) This is what is so heartbreaking to me, but I will keep my opinion to myself regarding Katherine Jackson/Henry Vaccaro/Howard Mann.

It certainly is interesting that Leslie Hu is stating that Vaccaro/Mann/Melissa Johnson all have retained the same lawyer, Edgar Pease.

MissShae said...

True Justice but maybe they simply did not have the money to pay the 325,000. It is more to this situation behind the scenes...

Yet Mrs Jackson says she feels that the estate is suing her and she is not named in the suit. I mean really...collusion not coercion...but I don't think she was alone in this venture. I believe it is more to this...

Michael Jackson: And Justice for Some said...

I absolutely think there is more to this, Miss Shae. I know that the Jacksons probably did not have the $$ for the $325K payment and that is what's so sad. Motown took a huge advantage over the Jackson 5, giving them a royalty rate that was far below the industry standard. This is one of the reasons for the cash flow, in addition to the bogus '93 allegations against Michael. A sad situation all around.

My next project is to continue to research what happened after Vaccaro got his hands on the memorabilia. r.c., who alerted me about the incorrect information I blogged, has said that the memorabilia was sold. She also said to look into where Mann was from, and how he entered the picture. Also, Leslie Hu has blogged that Vaccaro has a $550K federal tax lien, so she believes the memorabilia will be sold once again.

Personally, I believe that Vaccaro or Mann will be shut down. First, there's a big difference between Michael personally suing them, versus Michael's estate suing them. Secondly, now that Michael is deceased, Vaccaro/Mann do not own intellectual property rights. Just because they own the original sketches that Michael drew, doesn't mean they own intellectual property rights. That's like saying that if I own a picture of Michael that nobody has ever seen, that I can display it on the web and sell it for profit. I might own the original picture, but I don't own the right to display Michael's likeness or trademarks. So Vaccaro/Mann's defense that the "with prejudice" ruling gives them any sort of immunity, is incorrect. (A judge in 2007 overruled that decision anyway, so jmo, but the estate is going to clamp down hard on Vaccaro/Mann and leave Katherine out of the lawsuit entirely.)

SandyK said...

Very interesting post and comments. Vaccaro/Mann appear to be using Katherine and Michael's legacy purely to lend credibility to their own business dealings and ultimately line their own pockets. There are aspects to this story that I don't understand, one of them being why Katherine associates with these individual's concidering the history they've had with the family????

june said...

Justice, just by googling a few relevant words, I came across a document (opposition to a motion) filed by attorney Edgar Pease on behalf of Vaccaro, and his company, El Rich Corp., in 2005 in the consolidated federal cases brought by Michael and Janet (Black Doll) against Vaccaro for return of the memorabilia. Point being, while it's interesting Pease apparently represents Mann/Vaccaro/Johnson now, imo, it's just as interesting that his representation of Vaccaro is not new; only difference being Mann and Johnson have purportedly been added to his client roster.

Michael Jackson: And Justice for Some said...

Yes true, June. I read that doc..its the one where Vaccaro is asking the SBDA for the return of the items that Sneddon requested, right? What I do find interesting is not so much the Mann connection to Pease, but the Melissa Johnson connection. Are the three of them working together? Interesting to say the least!

Also, El-Rich is not owned by Vaccaro. The owner of El-Rich is the guy Vaccaro enlisted to buy the memorabilia from the storage units. At that time, the judge nor the Jacksons knew that Vaccaro was behind it.

june said...

Justice, yes that's the document to which I was referring; although it's public record, due to it being a legal doc I didn't want to post link and figured you either had previously seen or would find. Is it reasonable to assume that in 2005 Vaccaro didn't know Mann (or Johnson)? I believe so and that this dual representation ties Vaccaro to Mann at the present time. As for Johnson's connection, it seems they will act together against the estate if strongly challenged, using the same attorney and the same defense tactics.

Yes, I was incorrect about El Rich; I believe that document stated Vaccaro's company at the time was called Jacksonvault.com; not much of a stretch that now Mann's company is called Jacksonsecretvault.com. I'm looking forward to your second blog on this subject of events after 2001. There is something very odd about all this, but it's coming together!

Bridgett_361 said...

Hey justice I read it but my ass was trying to get some Oder out to meet a few deadline.
mark sheffele and Joe bring those people into Katherine life they try with those belts the kids sign and know this Mann guy who have ties to the porn world,
And if MJ belonging was not a part of the suit the estate will find out.when MJ was around he was distracted with all kind of trail and tribulation and some took advantage of the situation, but with the estate dealing with his business they don't have the distraction MJ had they can go after those crooks,
I too wonder how is it Mann was claiming because he own the picture he owns the intellectual property rights. Also.

It this for real they sand the Jacksons $50:00 check s and three of them cash them, I want to say I feel bad but I don't the jackson's got chance most people never get in ten life time and what have some of them done with it?
When I see how hard MJ work he die working the lease some could have done was to meet him half way.
If it is really that the stuff are going to be sold again then maybe the estate can buy them back to put into MJ museum.
It's a messy issue because katherine and MJ babies are entangle in this web of thievery it is clear as daylight that those people are using Katherine to front there loot, my question is why none of her adult children especially the girls not looking out for there mother? Why are they sitting back and allowing her to be used like this?
There is something I am not getting why the judge Oder Michael and Janet's possessions to be sold too when they were not apart of the suit?
This case look like it need to be investigated from top to root. Too much don't add up.

I am worried because if anything befall KJ what will happen to MJ three?
Poor young prince he will have grow up real fast to look out for his brother and sister.

Bridgett_361 said...

The dog eat my comment.

Bridgett_361 said...

@ justice I read and reread but not understanding ho mj get entangle in the whole mess?

And if the JCI deal fell through because the backer pull there support how is it the the jackson end-up owing vaccaro money?
I know they agree to buy the company which at the time was bankrupt and make the fist payment but the Jackson did not have the money to. Move ahead with the venture on there own so hence all went down hill,
I am not making excuse for the Jackson because they should have respond to the suit, vaccaro seam to me by going after the Jackson because of there connection to michael he feel he can get money if it was anyone other than the Jackson I don't think he would have sue.

Michael Jackson: And Justice for Some said...

Bridgett,

JCI basically went bankrupt, but BEFORE it did, the company signed a contract to buy Kramer Guitar, which Vaccaro owned. At the time JCI agreed to buy Kramer Guitar for $550,000 and they made a payment of $225,000. But then JCI stopped paying, leaving a balance of $325,000. Vaccaro eventually sued and won approximately $1.5 million against JCI.

However, there are several issues here. The original judge stated that any of the Jacksons who did NOT receive money from JCI were exempt from the lawsuit. Three Jacksons, Michael, Janet and LaToya did not receive any money and so they should have been exempted from the lawsuit.

Second, the L.A. judge who ordered BOTH of the storage units (one for the Jacksons and one for Michael/Janet's stuff) should NEVER have ordered for both of the storages to be sold. Michael clearly would have had the money to pay off the storage unit that belonged to him and Janet, but apparently was never notified of what was happening.

Bridgett_361 said...

But if mj Lj and Janet thing was not taken in the first place ( they call a moving truck and move only those Jackson who was name in the suit) and leave back M,L,and J .
So how did they came to have it in there storage if they did not take it out in the fist instant?
I better go read those article again because I must be missing something.

Michael Jackson: And Justice for Some said...

Bridgett,

When Vaccaro opened the storage unit, MJ/Janet's stuff was placed into a different storage unit. But the judge ordered that BOTH units should go to the highest bidder, which was Henry Vaccaro thru his buddy who was the owner of El-Rich.

Bridgett_361 said...

Hey justice what going on in the blog world every one gone dead. Can't get no new blog
What are you working on throw us a bone with lots of meat, we are getting hungry.

Michael Jackson: And Justice for Some said...

Hey Bridgett,

Well, one of the blog readers contacted someone who follows the blog on twitter. They suggested I do a blog on whether Michael was worth more dead than alive to AEG. I thought it would be worth revisiting considering the Murray connection and the upcoming trial. The issue here is that there is so much information, so many tangents to the business relationship between AEG and MJ. What do you guys think of this idea? Should I wait until AFTER the trial to blog about AEG and MJ?

Bridgett_361 said...

I am thinking maybe you should wait because we will get more credable
information from the Murray trail,
We know AEG was worried about the conflick of instrest because they
use the same lawyer.
we know if AEG was that worried and push for mj to get his own
legal person then then MJ must have know he had half a ace and could
play it anytime,
it must have been the same ace JB play to get AEG to ammend the
contract after MJ leave the house.
the 50 million dollar questions
Did AeG knew mj had a sleep problem?
DId AED demand to know if mj was healthy why he need a live in doctor?
Did murray provied AEG report about mj health,
I want the Katherine lawsuit to go ahead but I don't know if
Katherine is seeking justice or money?
AEG should be hold accountable just as murray because if they knew
MJ was not capable of doing those show and went After him to exploite
for there own greed then I hold them accountable More Then Murray.
but allow me to suggest you started a AEG thread a while back why
don't you keep it on the wamer by updateing it every time new
information come available,

Michael Jackson: And Justice for Some said...

Hey everyone,

Bridgett tweeted me this link. Leslie Hu has interviewed Henry Vaccaro and has posted it. Here is the link:

http://lesliemjhu.blogspot.com/2011/02/interview-with-henry-vaccaro.html

Bridgett_361 said...

Intersted that vaccaro and Mann still in bussiness and vaccaro never met michael
Yet he feel he should take ownership of his pearsonl belonging
I wonder if all along vaccaro was hoping MJ would pay i am asking how valuable those item would be without mj ?
I am yet to see any other Jackson item on display.
He to give back mj belonging to his children

BigBad Henry said...

Hi this is Henry Vaccaro,A few corrections to your blog Kramer was not the contractor for the Asbury Park Project Vaccaro Corp was.In 1993 I attended meetings in Encino, not Kramer.MJ's and Janet's possessions were left in the Montgomery warehouse. I only got them as result of auction. All possessions WERE turned over to the trustee as they were in a bonded warehouse in Oxnard .

BigBad Henry said...

June If anybody was duped it was me I have documentation including JCI's Formation Charter showing All 9 Jackson children which includes MJ and Janet as stockholders. That was the only way I would have sold Kramer to them.I have loan applications to State of N.J.with MJ and Janet as owners.Janet's suit against me was also dismissed

BigBad Henry said...

Justice I do have a Federal Tax Lien which goes way back to my personal bankruptcy. It is being paid off from the sale of a large tract of property and has no bearing on memorabilia

BigBad Henry said...

Justice, let me also clear something else up. The reason MJ's and Janet's memorabilia was in Tito's storage facility in Oxnard was because JCI planed chain of restaurants like the Hard Rock. Tito had been collecting memorabilia over the years on behalf of the family.In fact according to investment documents that I have ALL MEMORABILIA was owned by Joe Jackson and Katherine who paid the storage rent

Michael Jackson: And Justice for Some said...

Mr. Vaccaro,

Please contact me at andjusticeforsome@ymail. I would like to bring to light the facts on this case, if you will allow me to.

Justice

june said...

Hi Justice, in Mr. Vaccaro's response addressed to me, above here addressed to "June" in comments, his response does not appear to be related to my comment/question which was posted on Leslie Hu's blog. If you are contacted by Mr. Vaccaro via email, would it be possible for you to cover my question with him, which is: Did he turn over to Thomas Sneddon for trial use, certain items of MJ's from the storage locker (which I understand Sneddon might have subpoenaed in 2004), if so, which items, and did he ever get them back from Sneddon?

Thanks Justice.

BigBad Henry said...

June, After word got out about the collection I received a visit from two detectives from Sneddons office with a subpoena to search my warehouse I complied.The items taken were several photos,hand written notes and a item of Michaels clothing which came from his wardrobe trunk. Yes the items have been returned.

Michael Jackson: And Justice for Some said...

June,

Here is an article that states that Diane Dimond is the person who reported to Sneddon re the contents of the storage unit that Mr. Vaccaro bought.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/gossip/2005/03/15/2005-03-15_did_jax_reporter_brief_da_.html

june said...

Justice, I think I previously read of DD's informing Sneddon regarding the contents of the storage unit. At work right now, can't open links, will look at it later. Thanks much!

Bridgett_361 said...

I wish we could hear the Jackson's side of the story,
I am thinking MJ family drag him in this situation.

@ BigBad Henry did JCI make a profit ?

Michael Jackson: And Justice for Some said...

Bridgett,

Mr. Vaccaro states that he has documents that prove that Tito had been collecting the memorabilia over the years, but that the Jacksons said they owned ALL of the contents. They put a list value of under $5,000, probably due to the fact that there was a $1.4 million judgement against them according to Mr. Vaccaro.

Big Bad Henry answered you on Leslie Hu's blog, did you see it?

Bridgett_361 said...

I just read it. Can I email you,
I need to ask you a question.

Michael Jackson: And Justice for Some said...

Yes of course Bridgett.

SandyK said...

I've read the interview with Vaccaro and the ajoining comments from this site:

http://lesliemjhu.blogspot.com/2011/02/interview-with-henry-vaccaro.html

An interesting read although many clearly question Vaccaro's integrity and his reporting of history in regard to his relationship with the Jackson family. Is he trying to re-write history? Do we truly know if his comments are credible? Like Bridgett, it would be interesting to hear the Jackson's side of this story.

june said...

Hi Justice, I've been reading your latest tweets as I'm not yet up and running on twitter; Vaccaro/Mann are not trustworthy imo, and where are the Jackson brothers and sisters on all this; why are they not helping their mother through this minefield. Some items posted on various blogs and sites are straight out of Vaccaro's storage locker; he claims items were stolen; and he claims that he DID give over some items of Michael's to Sneddon when he was subpoenaed by Sneddon after Sneddon got info from Demon Dimond; Michael's most personal writings are all over the internet. It's really disgusting. Mann, Vaccaro and Johnson have the same lawyer. This latest fiasco with GMA parading Michael's kids around promoting this "charity" was almost too much. Do you think, Justice, that Katherine Jackson is trying to make a point, i.e., no one is going to tell her what she can and can't do concerning her son. As a mom, I can relate, but the ends do not justify the means, the means being consorting with the likes of Howard Mann and using Michael's kids for dubious purposes.

The Jackson siblings are all about self-promotion of their own new songs; their apparent indifference speaks volumes.

SandyK said...

June said, "This latest fiasco with GMA parading Michael's kids around promoting this "charity" was almost too much."

I strongly agree. That was too much. Ugh!...:-(

SandyK said...

June, I saw this posted on Jermaine's Twitter recently and wanted to post it here in he and his siblings defense.

Jermaine Jackson on Twitter,
"thanku -- family can only do its best. we face complex matters but perceived 'silence' does not mean private inaction."

I do believe him when he says this. I'm sure they are doing their best behind the scenes.

june said...

@SandyK, thank you, yes, I had seen that tweet from Jermaine about perceived 'silence' not meaning private inaction. And I do believe to some extent they find emotional help in going about their own business. I can find no evidence of the siblings promoting Michael's past charitable works, and they are in a position to do so, in mainstream media such as GMA, Today, etc., with the possible effect of offsetting some of Murray's PR negative spin as the trial draws closer and a jury pool is drawn from the LA area. About Ms. Jackson and the kids on GMA, I know this charity they are promoting is NOT HTWF which Michael founded, but in some roundabout way, AT LEAST the interview focused on Michael's good works, even for a dubious cause. IMO there should be more such interviews from family members on the subject of his giant very legitimate philanthropic endeavors, positive mainstream media vs. negative Murray PR spin. I suppose wishful thinking.

SandyK said...

Hi June...:-)
I agree that Michael's siblings should be doing more to promote Michael's past charitable work. Michael's children shouldn't be used to do this. They are still children. Michael never paraded them around in order to promote anything. I do wish Michael's example would be followed. Everytime there is a TV appearance, it increases the desire of the press and the public for photos and stories about MJ3. So far, they are protected by their age. In time, the tabloids will find excuses to trash them like they trashed their father. Although these aren't my children, the prospect of the press abusing them in the future just sickens me. However, I am hopefull that Michael instilled a strong sense of self worth in his kids and this will serve them well as adults. Also, they have each other. That will also be critical for them.

june said...

Hi Sandy and thanks for the response; I'll rant on just a bit then stop. Since Michael's demise, Janet, LaToya, Rebbie, Jermaine, Jackie and Randy have been interviewed (perhaps not Marlon), and the only subjects they have covered have been their own albums, books and upcoming events, with some mention of "interventions" into Michael's "addictions", with no dates ever given, and from what I have come across lately, the "interventions" were their feeble attempts to get Michael to tour with them, which he always refused. With the possible exception of Jermaine who I believe did give an interview in which he briefly mentioned Michael's charitable works, none of the siblings talked at length about Michael's unmatched charity and individual efforts on behalf of childrens' causes. Now, right before Murray's trial, would be a MOST opportune time for each of them to step forward with a positive message for and about their brother. They have given interviews promoting their own interests, it's past time they gave interviews shining light on their brother's huge charitable endeavors.

SandyK said...

Hi June. Forgive me for pursuing this further. You mentioned the fact that the siblings don't mention dates of the alleged "interventions." I have no proof of this but I strongly believe that if there were "interventions," the nature of which is still unclear, they have been advised to not mention dates publically. (I wish they hadn't said anything publically!) Again, I have no proof of this other than the fact that those family members mentioning "interventions" are consistant in not mentioning dates. My belief is that this could affect the upcoming trial with Murray and the future litigation with AEG. We all know that Michael passed a physical exam in February of 2009 which was required inorder to obtain tour insurance. Would it not complicate things greatly if anyone were to say that Michael underwent attempted "interventions" between February 2009 and June 2009? Could there be liability regarding that tour insurance policy if Michael was believed to have a drug problem, or some other problem that might prevent him from touring, while that policy was active? Of course the autopsy report makes it clear that Michael was not an addict at the time of his death. I so wish that the very idea of interventions had never been mentioned. I think it's clear that something happened. It's just not clear what actually happened. I think it was truly a mistake for anyone to have mentioned the very idea in public.

SandyK said...

June said, "They have given interviews promoting their own interests, it's past time they gave interviews shining light on their brother's huge charitable endeavors."

I agree with your comment. I do wish they would do something for Michael that has nothing to do with a project they as individuals are working on.

june said...

@Sandy - hi again, thought I would clarify what I meant by "interventions" with reference to the siblings. I wasn't referring to the period February through June 2009 and, yes, I understand references to interventions during that time period would support Murray's argument that MJ was addicted. Michael did pass the physical and the autopsy showed no drugs aside from what Murray gave him. I was referring to times prior to January 2009. Rowe's book talks about the sibs attempting to get Michael to join them on the Allgood tour, but he would not agree. Like you, I have little to base it on aside from what I have read, but I believe the sibs are using those times of contact, be they by phone or in person, to try to portray themselves as "intervening", when such contact was no more than an attempt to urge Michael to tour with them at the time he was in serious negotiations for the London tour. If they thought he had a drug problem, why would they be encouraging him to tour with them? Who knows if the truth of this will ever come out. I too wish the issue of "interventions" had never been mentioned, but, as usual, the family did not volunteer this info; at every interview, it was the host asking that question, as if nothing else mattered. Makes me mad.

Fast forward to present: point being, I still feel they should "come out" NOW as the trial approaches, to counter the negative PR from Murray's team, with lots of positive TRUTH about their brother's great heart and generosity.

SandyK said...

June said, "I still feel they should "come out" NOW as the trial approaches, to counter the negative PR from Murray's team, with lots of positive TRUTH about their brother's great heart and generosity."

Absolutely! The sooner the better! Thanks for your reply...:-)